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[Message #1]
Eva Milenewicz:
Hi
[Message #2]
Erica Ruiz:
Hi
[Message #3]
Eva Milenewicz:
What do you guys think the purpose of education is?
[Message #4]
Nick Luciano:
Should we just put what we wrote?
[Message #5]
Eva Milenewicz:
yeah
[Message #6]
Eva Milenewicz:
I said that it is so we will be knowledgable so we can be able to survive the pressures and demands of a job
[Message #7]
Mauricio Urias:
It is to prepare us for the future.
[Message #8]
Nick Luciano:
The purpose of educaton is to provide young people with information that will help them understand the world around them. Education is a way to feep youth on the right track and provide them with a forum to grow and create their own ideas and identity.
[Message #9]
Nick Luciano:
keep
[Message #10]
Erica Ruiz:
I wrote that the purpose of education is to teach students the knowlege necessary to acquire a career of their choice that they are interested in and be someone productive in our society.
[Message #11]
Eva Milenewicz:
how about the second question?
[Message #12]
Mauricio Urias:
Why is education important? What is the purpose of education? Just ask yourself why are you here right now?
[Message #13]
Erica Ruiz:
I believe that the responsibilities of educators and schools is to provide their students with the best education possible so they can produce self thinking, knowledgable individuals. They should provide a safe, clean environment on campus. The educators should be professionals with degrees and know what they are teaching.
[Message #14]
Nick Luciano:
It is up to educators and schools to provide children with a healthy learning enviroment in which they feel comfortable and have the ability to learn without judgement or prejudice.
[Message #15]
Eva Milenewicz:
I wrote that an educator/school has a huge responsibility, to teach the school ciriculum to the best of their ability
[Message #16]
Eva Milenewicz:
yeah, my responses aren't as good as your guys', so what did you put for the last question?
[Message #17]
Nick Luciano:
The goals of education should be that once a child has been through the education system they will be mature enough and intelligent enough to make a significant contibution to society.
[Message #18]
Erica Ruiz:
I wrote basically what Nick wrote.
[Message #19]
Eva Milenewicz:
sounds good
[Message #20]
Amy Lawlor:
what sound good?
[Message #21]
Eva Milenewicz:
what Nike wrote about contributing to society, duh
[Message #22]
Mauricio Urias:
The educators responsibility is to teach a variety of students with different ethnic backgrounds. Educators are responsible for teaching us the proper subjects accurately. The sensitive subject of history might seem offensive to someone if it is taught only with an American point of view.
[Message #23]
Amy Lawlor:
I don't think you ought to assume that it's obvious
[Message #24]
Eva Milenewicz:
I thought that was a good point not only what we can get out of being well educated, but what we can do for other people
[Message #25]
Eva Milenewicz:
sorry
[Message #26]
Mauricio Urias:
School must prepare us for the fast paced and competitive world. It must teach us confidence and leadership
[Message #27]
Erica Ruiz:
that's true also
[Message #28]
Amy Lawlor:
end
[Message #1]
Ruth SanJuan:
hello
[Message #2]
michael mark:
hey
[Message #3]
Alex Daugherty:
hey.
[Message #4]
Ruth SanJuan:
what is education?
[Message #5]
michael mark:
preperation for the futre and life.
[Message #6]
Alex Daugherty:
a means of socialization.
[Message #7]
michael mark:
that is true
[Message #8]
Ruth SanJuan:
i agree with both of you
[Message #9]
Alex Daugherty:
what do you think the responsibilities of educators are?
[Message #10]
Ruth SanJuan:
in elementary and high school, it is the center for socializing and developing onces specific social personality and tendencies.
[Message #11]
Ruth SanJuan:
responsibilities of educators are to provide students with a basic foundation, a blueprint if you will, that will be useful for later on in life.
[Message #12]
EMMA JIMENEZ:
I think that educators are supposed teach what is true and share what they think, but allow students to come up with their own conclusions about things. Educators should encourage thinking and questioning, but also respect the fact that students are unique individuals.
[Message #13]
Ruth SanJuan:
But do you think educators are fulfilling those responsibilities.
[Message #14]
Ruth SanJuan:
?
[Message #15]
michael mark:
we are set to a standard that is set up by our government that is deemed suitable
[Message #16]
EMMA JIMENEZ:
no, if they were, we'd be in a much better situation and we wouldn't be having this conversation b/c we'd already know.
[Message #17]
Ruth SanJuan:
so what does that do to education and the future of our country?
[Message #18]
michael mark:
might turn us into mindless drones
[Message #19]
EMMA JIMENEZ:
I don't think we'd be mindless, but our opinions would'nt matter
[Message #20]
Alex Daugherty:
it turns students of lower class schools (and middle class schools to an extent) into mindless drones.
[Message #21]
Ruth SanJuan:
exactly because our opinions would be based on the same censored information.
[Message #22]
michael mark:
what ever they deem important is what we learn"basics" then you get some instrutors that want you to question all that is taught.
[Message #23]
EMMA JIMENEZ:
i think we are always thinking, but we just ignore what we think sometimes. that's probably what it would do since what we think won't be validated.
[Message #24]
Ruth SanJuan:
instructors who encourage individual thinking and questioning are the ones who are giving students a chance to develop the right way.
[Message #25]
EMMA JIMENEZ:
i agree, and hopefully there will always be some of those around
[Message #26]
michael mark:
emma don't you think that would be more of a issue of apersons confidence rather than how we think our education is taught
[Message #27]
EMMA JIMENEZ:
i think it's both.
[Message #28]
michael mark:
I think as far as history teachers on campus mr. wong always tella it to you striaght and makes you wonder.
[Message #29]
EMMA JIMENEZ:
if at school you don't feel that you are valued, then you wouldn't feel as though you matter and neither does what you think or feel. it might even make you feel as though what you think is bad.
[Message #30]
Ruth SanJuan:
One's ability to speak their minds' is based on how well they know and believe that subject.
[Message #31]
EMMA JIMENEZ:
does anybody have any good expeirences with teachers being real?
[Message #32]
michael mark:
yes
[Message #33]
EMMA JIMENEZ:
tell us
[Message #34]
Ruth SanJuan:
If one has a passion and a connection with a subject that person's views and opinions will have higher respectablility.
[Message #35]
Ruth SanJuan:
i had a high school history teacher who was real. Because of that, he was fired by the school board and administration.
[Message #36]
Ruth SanJuan:
he never taught from textbooks, but from personal accounts of events.
[Message #37]
EMMA JIMENEZ:
that's sad.
[Message #38]
michael mark:
well mr. wong (history) ,Karen wong (englis) J. Helto( hist) have always influenced me and ask to always look at things and ideas from all aspects . not just what is common belief.those are the ones that really got me thinking.
[Message #39]
EMMA JIMENEZ:
i had a teacher in high school who never answered our questions until we answered them ourselves and i like that b/c i felt as though i was smart and could think for myself. of course, he'd give you his response after you gave him yours. he retired though, but everyone at the school loved him
[Message #40]
michael mark:
yeah in h.s. I had a been in a class where the new student teacher made things more plyable to life, and was reprimanded by the actual teacher of my hist class. was brutal
[Message #41]
Ruth SanJuan:
But thinking and questioning isn't something that should be influenced by school only. It should be done in every aspect of ones life. The two enable persons to become individuals and not people.
[Message #42]
EMMA JIMENEZ:
his room was loaded with writings and posters students made, i mean wall, to wall, to ceiling, so you could tell he valued his students. that really mattered.
[Message #43]
EMMA JIMENEZ:
what do you mean ruth?
[Message #44]
Ruth SanJuan:
forgive me here, but the descriptions you guys are supplying make it seem like thinking, questioning, and theorizing is revolved on what we allow teachers to say to us. But in my opinion, thinking, questioning, and theorizing, is something that be based on personal experiences, and awareness of one's self and surroundings.
[Message #45]
michael mark:
Ruth has a good point you should be able to question ,sometimes life in general. and the standards, like domsetic partnerships, legalization of pot, being able to burn a flag,etc
[Message #46]
Ruth SanJuan:
Teachers and education schooling doesn't neccessarily mean that the graduate student is in any way better than someone who hasn't gone to college.
[Message #47]
EMMA JIMENEZ:
yes, i understand. but considering we spend like 70% of our lives in school growing up, it should have a big impact. i know it's not the only source, like families, work, society, etc. influence us too.
[Message #48]
michael mark:
ture sometimes school is not for everyone
[Message #49]
Ruth SanJuan:
it only means they've finished formal education and that they have a piece of paper to prove it. Education can be learned through real life experiences. Sometimes, this education is more valuable.
[Message #50]
Ruth SanJuan:
of course it depends on the situation.
[Message #51]
Ruth SanJuan:
hmm.....
[Message #52]
michael mark:
But here in the states with out this piece of paper you really can't do anything ,agian it is the standard we live by unfortunately. but there are some things in life like being a doctor or pilot that requires that paper.
[Message #53]
Ruth SanJuan:
but everyone has a degree now and days.
[Message #54]
EMMA JIMENEZ:
exactly
[Message #55]
Ruth SanJuan:
you have to have something else to offer employers.
[Message #56]
michael mark:
exactly ruth
[Message #57]
Ruth SanJuan:
nice conversating with you guys.
[Message #58]
EMMA JIMENEZ:
unfortunately, all employers see during your interview is paper and your face
[Message #59]
michael mark:
have a nice day
[Message #60]
Amy Lawlor:
end
[Message #1]
James Reclus:
hello
[Message #2]
Rico Sandriana:
hi
[Message #3]
Aaron Jones:
hi
[Message #4]
Rico Sandriana:
I think all of us were the flying squirrels..
[Message #5]
Aaron Jones:
sweet
[Message #6]
James Reclus:
For the freewrite question, at least the first questions, I said that schools were like minimum security prisons for areas where many students spend their free time getting into trouble.
[Message #7]
Mercedes Campos:
well
I think that education is control by the government. i also thing athelics get a better change to continue will a education and free.
[Message #8]
James Reclus:
yep, flying squirrel right here
[Message #9]
Mercedes Campos:
i was not a flying squirrel
[Message #10]
Rico Sandriana:
lol school is like a prison
[Message #11]
James Reclus:
thats okay, we won't hold it against you
[Message #12]
Rico Sandriana:
sometimes i feel that way
[Message #13]
Mercedes Campos:
thanks
[Message #14]
James Reclus:
Well, in the R.O.H. book, it suggests a great deal of things about education.
[Message #15]
James Reclus:
The really bad thing about that is I do not agree with a vast majority of the opinions given in the book.
[Message #16]
Mercedes Campos:
sometimes i feel that athelics don't have to work so much. teachers take it easier on athelics so they could concentrated on winning championships for the schools.
[Message #17]
Mercedes Campos:
i know of a quarterback from a college that is getting a ful ride and he is one of the dumest person i know, where in the same school there are many girls that would love to get the money but most of the athelics get that money
[Message #18]
Aaron Jones:
i said that most schools are like preschools, sure everybody learns, but what does anyone learn that will help them in the real world? We learn all of these subjects, but what good will english, math and science do us, at least out of highschool? There's no job preparation, and despite the educational setting, everything is made fun---recesses, school spirit, dances, and particularly minimum days and the forgiving teachers.
The only thing that seems worthy of schooling seems the vocational classes like autocad, woodshop, metal and autoshop
[Message #19]
Mercedes Campos:
so you think that school is a waste of time.
[Message #20]
Aaron Jones:
to sum up, the purpose of education is to make it appealing to kids and adults by having them do fun things rather than what they would be doing if their classes were the real world
[Message #21]
Mercedes Campos:
i happen to think that some subject we don't really need and or help us to prepare us for the future, but in some way school is a way to socialize with others that are different from us and others that are like us.
[Message #22]
James Reclus:
In my own opinion, I think that education has become just a daily routine. For most teachers, this is the boring job they got stuck with and only stick with it to collect the paycheck; however, small it may be.
As for the athletes getting special treatment because they play a particular sport is hard to debate. In my High School, I noticed that some teachers had two grading systems, one was for the regular students which was obviously the harder one, but the other grading system was for the athletes and it was obviously easier. It seemed like those who played sports were given more chances to succeed and even if they did not they got points because they "tried their best". (i.e., one such athlete got to take a test at my school in twice because he did not do well on his first try, but other students who did not play sports were not given that chance.)
[Message #23]
Aaron Jones:
yeah, basically, mercedes, i think that about nails it, on the education part, the social value, on the other hand is what seems to be worth it,
[Message #24]
Rico Sandriana:
did you guys get this from the book or from your experiences?
[Message #25]
Mercedes Campos:
both
[Message #26]
James Reclus:
Yeah, but which subjects would those be?
[Message #27]
Aaron Jones:
experiences
[Message #28]
James Reclus:
both.
[Message #29]
Mercedes Campos:
what do you guys think about private schools.
[Message #30]
Mercedes Campos:
i been in public schools all my life and my boyfriend has been in private all his life and we are always fighting over who got a better educations and high schools experiences.
[Message #31]
James Reclus:
I went to a private school and I liked it for the most part, but not for its educational opportunities. I actually found it a great place to socialize and I felt that I could think freely as long as I did not question the status quo. For the most part I like private school, but I do fell that some changes have to be made to ensure that the students are getting the best education they can get. However, I think that public schools offer the same thing as private schools do except for the fact that they are limited by the funds they are given by the government.
In the end, I do not really know what to think about education today. There are so many good things about it, but there are also so many bad things about it as well. I just hope that education does not screw people up to much that they are unable to function in society.
[Message #32]
Aaron Jones:
better equipped, nicer facilities, more options, uniforms, shorter days, and tudoring, private schools will advance you faster than any public school will, particularly because the teachers give a damn and have a little more control over what is studied, than in public schools which the government funds
[Message #33]
Mercedes Campos:
i think that both private and public can provide a great education, but the only thing that i don't like about private is the lack of diversity.
[Message #34]
Rico Sandriana:
isn't private school more strict than public schools
[Message #35]
Aaron Jones:
on the social level however, schools like mercy and serra have to be tough, i mean only having one gender at each, ay!
[Message #36]
James Reclus:
Not all teachers give a damn in private school. I had a Geography teacher that was dumber than most sixth graders. He had no idea what he was doing most of the time. Our typical class day consisted of him handing out a small map of a country and we had to color it. We had to color it exactly like the textbook did or else you got a lower grade.
To add to that, when he actually tried to teach us about certain things he always studdard and lost his train of thought. It was like watching someone with both long term and short term memory loss realize that they do not know where they are for the fifth time that day and I just want to add that this was a morning class that started at 8:10 am.
[Message #37]
Aaron Jones:
yeah, if their protestant/christian ones, catholic schools, according to a friend are easy and piece of cake, except for the minor inconvenience of occasional stabbings
[Message #38]
James Reclus:
Private schools are not necesarily more tough, but they do expect more from the students than public schools do.
[Message #39]
Aaron Jones:
sorry, i thought we were talking highschool primarily
[Message #40]
Aaron Jones:
i have no clue about middle or elementary schools
[Message #41]
James Reclus:
I was talking about high school!
[Message #42]
Mercedes Campos:
I had great teacher is public schools and they were very tough and expect a lot for me.
[Message #43]
Aaron Jones:
same here
[Message #44]
Rico Sandriana:
so I guess it depends on the teachers the students have
[Message #45]
James Reclus:
I think most people do not really care what happens in their middle school. To most students they are just going to scholl to spend time with their friends and occasionally to learn something that interests them.
[Message #46]
James Reclus:
Yep.
[Message #47]
Aaron Jones:
yeah
[Message #48]
Rico Sandriana:
c ya
[Message #49]
Aaron Jones:
bye
[Message #50]
James Reclus:
Type at you next time.
[Message #51]
Amy Lawlor:
end
[Message #1]
Duran Nancy:
Hello
[Message #2]
cecilia ellington:
hey
[Message #3]
Chochi Santos:
Yo.
[Message #4]
Duran Nancy:
What did you write for the first question?
[Message #5]
Duran Nancy:
Why do you think is the purpose of education?
[Message #6]
cecilia ellington:
i think that the purpose of education is to teach knowledge and learn all the different levels of education
[Message #7]
Chochi Santos:
The purpose of education is for one to aquire knowledge about one or more subjects.
[Message #8]
cecilia ellington:
what about the second question????
[Message #9]
Duran Nancy:
I agree and also to to be able to get a good professions and make good money.
[Message #10]
cecilia ellington:
i think the responsibilities of educators/schools is to teach people the real knowledge they need to know about a particular subject. and it is the schools responsibility to make sure that the educators are doin their job right.
[Message #11]
Chochi Santos:
The resposibilities of an educator or school is to pass down knowledge to those who wish to learn.
[Message #12]
Duran Nancy:
The responsiblities of educators is to teach students English, Math and other subjects that will perpare them for the real world, so that eventually they will get a degree in some profession. Schools responsiblities is that teachers are teaching students.
[Message #13]
cecilia ellington:
what about the last question?
[Message #14]
cecilia ellington:
i think the goals of education is to learn all you to you can get a good degree. most people go to school to get the highest level of education they can so they can succeed in life. education paye off
[Message #15]
Duran Nancy:
The goals of education is that you learn something that will be useful in life, you can get a good job if you major in the right career, and get pay good for doing something you love and enjoy doing.
[Message #16]
Chochi Santos:
The goals of eduction are for people to broaden their horizons and for people to develope tools for life.
[Message #17]
Duran Nancy:
Well said!
[Message #18]
Chochi Santos:
Thanks.
[Message #19]
Amy Lawlor:
what have you found from the book to support or contradict your ideas here?
[Message #20]
Chochi Santos:
A lot of stuff.
[Message #21]
Duran Nancy:
That teachers are not doing a good job at teaching high school students about what really happened in history.
[Message #22]
Duran Nancy:
Some teachers don't encourage students to particiate in class and asks questions which is important.
[Message #23]
cecilia ellington:
yea thats true
[Message #24]
Chochi Santos:
Yup.
[Message #25]
Chochi Santos:
See ya later
[Message #26]
Amy Lawlor:
end