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[Message #1]
Tim Ashton:
Lychee group......the only group that matters
[Message #2]
Tim Ashton:
I assume that the assignment was to read two different articles?
[Message #3]
Tim Ashton:
I was not here on Wednesday....
[Message #4]
Tim Ashton:
Let me see, two cultural text, I suppose I will make some up then.
[Message #5]
Tim Ashton:
One male based one female based? ok.....
[Message #6]
Tim Ashton:
Male based....does it have to be text?
[Message #7]
Urias Mauricio:
Commercials have a big influence gender roles we play in contemporary society.
[Message #8]
Jennifer Ho:
the assignment was to choose a cultural text (i.e. books, movies, magazines,
etc.) and analyze them
[Message #9]
Tim Ashton:
gotcha
[Message #10]
Jennifer Ho:
analyze them both ways
[Message #11]
Jennifer Ho:
gender and social class
[Message #12]
Tim Ashton:
what did you all do?
[Message #13]
Jennifer Ho:
tv ads
[Message #14]
Jennifer Ho:
commercials
[Message #15]
Urias Mauricio:
Children , as well as adults who read farytales portray themselves
unintentionally in a certain social class because of their gender.
[Message #16]
Tim Ashton:
For some reason, I keep thinking about two pieces of video recently shown over
and over and over again on T.V. First of all, we all know about Janet Jackson
exposing her bare beast on live T.V. during the half time of the superbowl. On
the same news casts, they are playing the survalance video of the girl who was
just murdered in Florida.
There seems to be a crazy line being drawn between what is ok and what is not.
According to the mass media coverage of the events which I have described it is
harmful and scarring to see a woman's breast, but it is completely acceptable to
repeatedly show the abduction of a little girl.
Does that seem reasonable?
[Message #17]
Tim Ashton:
Regarding your comment on social class and gender roles, I think it is true that
these presentations of people's personality and therefore gender roles are
completely unintentional.
[Message #18]
Tim Ashton:
It is hard to judge the role played by fiary tales on children because they are
bombarded by some many other things. It is not as if we can isolate a child and
expose them only to fairy tales like we would for a chemisrty experiment or
something.
[Message #19]
Urias Mauricio:
Good point!
[Message #20]
Amy Lawlor:
interesting ideas--
how does the janet jackson and Florida girl video reflect ideas about gender
roles?
[Message #21]
Tim Ashton:
The reflection of gender roles appears in how the news is reported. We spend
more "news" time on the showing of a breat then we do on the abduction of a
little girl for what we can assume was sexual purposes. The more we restrict the
society we live in, the more deviate we become. Sex has become sleezy and
violent. What does this have to do with gender roles? Consider the profile of
the victoms. I can't recall ever hearing of a man getting raped. Women are torn
in three different directions by the expectations of their cultural....the must
be a virgin, a whore, and a competent homemaker......all at once....impossible
expectations are seldom met.
[Message #22]
Tim Ashton:
How can we begin to explain the behavior of men? We have given the female side
consideration. It is only proper to view both sides. Men are portrayed as horney,
violent, stupid and unemotional. Sure there have been depictions of males as
sensitive beings....but not many. So where does a man look to know how he should
act? Sports? Professional sports are entertaining, don't get me wrong, but they
are also filled with murders, drug addicts and wife beaters.
[Message #23]
Tim Ashton:
Every character on TV is a bad ass cop gone mad or whatever. So boys are left
with one possible option, their fathers. In todays world, it is likely that the
father is no where to be found. So what? Well, we end up with a bunch of men who
act like boys and cannot control their temper or real in their desire to be
cool.
[Message #24]
Tim Ashton:
Here is test. What are the top there stories right now in the news? Hold on...I
will check...
[Message #25]
Amy Lawlor:
ok, and what do the recent news stories suggest about gender roles?
for example: what does the coverage of a little girl's abduction and murder
specifically suggest about girls?
what does the controversy of jj's bare breast specifically suggest about women's
sexuality?
[Message #26]
Tim Ashton:
The abduction specifically points at girls as vulnerable and as victims.
The JJ issue is a control issue, where men desire control over the women in the
society.
[Message #27]
Tim Ashton:
Top news stories:
36 killed in Moscow - terrorism
Girl killed in Florida - violent crime
Job rate falls - econ.
Do those say anything about gender roles?...no....but it was worth looking.
[Message #28]
Tim Ashton:
The essay question asks, what the debates regarding gender today..specifically,
these would be:
working women
sexual exploitation
women in combat
stay at home dads
sexual preference
who can legally marry
fidelity
Cool....late.
[Message #29]
Urias Mauricio:
We portray men and women as the society wants us to. That is unhealthy
functioning. I don' t want to see the world through his or her eyes. I don' t
want to think that if a girl sleeps around she is a slut. Or that the man always
has to play the dominant role. That is what everyone wants me to think. The
truth is that we must look at the world through our own eyes and judge using my
innate wisdom
[Message #30]
Amy Lawlor:
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