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[Message #1]
Joanne Boston:
yooooooooo
[Message #2]
Amy Lawlor:
What is the importance of language in
the poem?
[Message #3]
Joanne Boston:
hella important
[Message #4]
Nikki Santiago:
hullo ebleebodee
[Message #5]
Virtue Santos:
Hello Emu.
[Message #6]
Eloisa Palomaria:
so...the importance of language in a
poem...
[Message #7]
Eloisa Palomaria:
shows the expressions of the author
[Message #8]
Joanne Boston:
yes i agree
[Message #9]
Virtue Santos:
Umm hmm.
[Message #10]
Joanne Boston:
i think it also shows how cultured he
is...just him knowing how to speak
tagalog is important to his
culture...and i think the way the
priests are making him speak another
language is unfair...
[Message #11]
Joanne Boston:
all his life he was taught to speak this
specific language
[Message #12]
Virtue Santos:
It's totally messed up man!
[Message #13]
Virtue Santos:
There are better ways to learn.
[Message #14]
Joanne Boston:
and when he is told that the language he
is speaking is inferior is not fair
[Message #15]
Joanne Boston:
i think you should have the power to
speak any language you want to and no
one should tell you that your language
is less important or not as proper as
their's
[Message #16]
Eloisa Palomaria:
the importance of english...i think it's
because the philippines is totally
colonized by american influence
[Message #17]
Virtue Santos:
I don't know what makes English such a
great language.
[Message #18]
Virtue Santos:
In English, you can barely express
yourself as well as in other languages.
[Message #19]
Joanne Boston:
before the americans came the country
was speaking spanish
[Message #20]
Virtue Santos:
Do any of you know what language we
spoke before the Spanish came?
[Message #21]
Joanne Boston:
so i mean, the americans just went there
and was all big-headed saying their
language was better than any of the 100
or whatever languages already present in
the philippines
[Message #22]
Joanne Boston:
before the spanish, every province had
their own dialect
[Message #23]
Eloisa Palomaria:
yeah then the americans took over
[Message #24]
Joanne Boston:
and every province had their own
religion and customs...not all of the
filipinos present in the philippines
spoke tagalog or practiced roman
catholism
[Message #25]
Joanne Boston:
damn americans
[Message #26]
Eloisa Palomaria:
hahahaha
[Message #27]
Joanne Boston:
but in a way though
[Message #28]
Virtue Santos:
Hah
[Message #29]
Joanne Boston:
i think the americans kind of bonded
everyone
[Message #30]
Eloisa Palomaria:
and it could somewhat tie into why the
priests want them to speak english
[Message #31]
Joanne Boston:
ya know how everyone had their own
language and stuff...when the americans
came...everyone, the filipinos, seemed
to be facinated by them...and they
wanted to know their culture
[Message #32]
Joanne Boston:
i think the priests wanted them to speak
english because
[Message #33]
Joanne Boston:
dude...i dunno
[Message #34]
Virtue Santos:
But it worked out well in the end, or
did it?
[Message #35]
Eloisa Palomaria:
the whole idea of america and being
american is suppossedly grand, like
people move to america to hopefully find
a better life for themselves
[Message #36]
Joanne Boston:
in the long run...the philippines
wouldn't be what it is if it weren't for
the americans
[Message #37]
Eloisa Palomaria:
there's this idea of the american
society being superior
[Message #38]
Joanne Boston:
yes i agree eloisa
[Message #39]
Eloisa Palomaria:
why thank you joanne
[Message #40]
Eloisa Palomaria:
but yeah
[Message #41]
Joanne Boston:
but
[Message #42]
Joanne Boston:
i think the way they punished them was
kinda crossing the line
[Message #43]
Joanne Boston:
i mean holding two bibles...what does
that do?
[Message #44]
Joanne Boston:
stupid americans
[Message #45]
Eloisa Palomaria:
yeah, i think thats just the way they
got punished in the philippines, i
remember my dad tellin me some
punishments he had to go through at
school
[Message #46]
Virtue Santos:
Umm hmm.
[Message #47]
Joanne Boston:
yeah momma told me that they made her
stand on her desk and the nun took a
ruler and whacked her on the shin
[Message #48]
Eloisa Palomaria:
yeah some crazy stuff man
[Message #49]
Eloisa Palomaria:
so i guess if you spoke good english
over there then it would show that you
were educated or something
[Message #50]
Virtue Santos:
Shoot. My brother used to get straight
up beatings.
[Message #51]
Eloisa Palomaria:
i dunno
[Message #52]
Joanne Boston:
yeah i think so too...
[Message #53]
Amy Lawlor:
what is the context in which the
narrator removed from his language?
[Message #54]
Joanne Boston:
i don't understand the question amy
[Message #55]
Joanne Boston:
sorry i'm slow
[Message #56]
Eloisa Palomaria:
yeah me neither
[Message #57]
Amy Lawlor:
ah, you guys are making some interesting
points here...but what makes you think
the "language" of the priest was
English?
[Message #58]
Joanne Boston:
yooooo...i have a question
[Message #59]
Virtue Santos:
Like they didn't just force him to learn
a new language. The tore him away from
his native tongue.
[Message #60]
Joanne Boston:
were the priests filipino?
[Message #61]
Joanne Boston:
or were they american missionaries?
[Message #62]
Eloisa Palomaria:
cuz the last line in the first stanza
said that the priest only spoke english
[Message #63]
Joanne Boston:
because if the priests are native
filipino...and if they made their fellow
filipinos speak english...that right
there is taking away their culture
[Message #64]
Joanne Boston:
yeah
[Message #65]
Amy Lawlor:
good point. What can you find from the
text to indicate where the priest is
from? or can you find that out?
[Message #66]
Joanne Boston:
i don't think i can decipher whether or
not the priests were American or
Filipino...
[Message #67]
Joanne Boston:
just from the text i mean
[Message #68]
Eloisa Palomaria:
well i learned in one of my psyche and
behavior of filipinos class that there
were many american teachers that went
over to america to teach
[Message #69]
Joanne Boston:
yeah that's what i heard too
[Message #70]
Eloisa Palomaria:
and they taught filipino teachers how to
teach
[Message #71]
Virtue Santos:
I keep thinking that the priests are in
the PI, but I don't know what
nationality they are.
[Message #72]
Eloisa Palomaria:
maybe the priests are filipino but are
teaching the way the americans had
taught the filipino teachers to teach
[Message #73]
Joanne Boston:
but whatever the priest is...he's pretty
much motivated to make the kids speak
english whether he's flip or not
[Message #74]
Eloisa Palomaria:
i think they are in the philippines
[Message #75]
Joanne Boston:
yeah they are in PI
[Message #76]
Eloisa Palomaria:
cuz who or where in america do you get
punished like that??
[Message #77]
Joanne Boston:
exactly...they'll throw u in jail for
child endangerment before they let you
do that to any kid
[Message #78]
Eloisa Palomaria:
yeah that's like child torture
[Message #79]
Joanne Boston:
haha yeah
[Message #80]
Eloisa Palomaria:
i wonder if they still do that today
over there
[Message #81]
Joanne Boston:
but i think in the long run...english is
good and bad for a country
[Message #82]
Virtue Santos:
Military school.
[Message #83]
Eloisa Palomaria:
why is english good and bad for a
country
[Message #84]
Joanne Boston:
good in a sense that people in the
philippines have a common tongue to
speak...because before that everyone had
their own
dialect...ilocano...cebuano...etc
[Message #85]
Eloisa Palomaria:
yeah
[Message #86]
Joanne Boston:
and bad if english is the only and
exclusive language to speak at
school...if they are to be punished just
because they are speaking the language
they were brought up learning...then
that's bad...you shouldn't be forced to
speak a certain way and i think it's
unjust to punish someone for doing
something they have been doing
[Message #87]
Joanne Boston:
okay see ya guys later
[Message #88]
Eloisa Palomaria:
peach out homies
[Message #89]
Virtue Santos:
Peace.
[Message #90]
Amy Lawlor:
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