[Message #1]
Amy Lawlor:
According to "The Marriage of Maria Clara and Uncle Sam: Colonialism and the Education of Filipinos" who are the colonial influences in the Philippines?

What are the various cultural characteristics that each country has left behind?

How do each of these cultural characteristics vie for attention in the stories/poems?

[Message #2]
Talwinder Kattaria:
hi

[Message #3]
Julia Bick:
hola

[Message #4]
Talwinder Kattaria:
filippines was influeced by US

[Message #5]
Julia Bick:
The colonial influences in the philippines are spain and america

[Message #6]
Talwinder Kattaria:
Julia..where r u sitting tho?

[Message #7]
Talwinder Kattaria:
are we only 2 ppl in this group?

[Message #8]
Julia Bick:
US:  democratic ideals, english, american styles of dress, music and arts.
Spain:  catholicism, class consciousness, and respect for authority figures.

i guess so...i'm sitting in front on the right side of the room.

[Message #9]
Talwinder Kattaria:
oh okie

[Message #10]
Amy Lawlor:
don't forget the Malay influences as well

[Message #11]
Julia Bick:
The Malay also influenced the philippines:  belief in magic, animism, fatalism and the belief in the extended family.  so all together, the filippino culture has three contributors:  Malay, spain, and U.S.

[Message #12]
Talwinder Kattaria:
who were Malay ?

[Message #13]
Julia Bick:
Malaysians...

[Message #14]
Talwinder Kattaria:
k

[Message #15]
Amy Lawlor:
(include Malay as a cultural influence even though it was not a colonizing influence)

[Message #16]
Talwinder Kattaria:
do you think Philippino would have different country if it wasn't infueced by US, Spain ?

[Message #17]
Julia Bick:
Spain and the United States were influences due to colonization...had they never colonized the Philippines i think other countries would have...for example Japan took over the Philippines during WWII...had the US never moved in to "rescue" the philippines, they might have been greatly influenced by the Japanese

[Message #18]
Talwinder Kattaria:
think so

[Message #19]
Julia Bick:
In Negros, the Malaysian influence is very apparent...the appearences of Mamaus is very superstitious.

[Message #20]
Talwinder Kattaria:
ya very much

[Message #21]
Julia Bick:
The spanish influence in the story is the class differences between the narrator's immeadiate family and the extended family, cousin Eliel.  Matthew has parents who are educated and pretty well off (American Influence) and a cousin who is basically working as a slave in a hacienda, (obvious spanish influence)

[Message #22]
Julia Bick:
Rich people own the land on which these sacadas work and they don't believe that these people could take care of themselves.  That is the typical colonizer's attitude--they are saviors to those who are inferior--playing parent to a child.

[Message #23]
Julia Bick:
Let's move on to Bride...

[Message #24]
Julia Bick:
did you read the story?

[Message #25]
Talwinder Kattaria:
ya i did

[Message #26]
Talwinder Kattaria:
but it was hard to follow

[Message #27]
Julia Bick:
It starts out at a funeral, Candido was married once before long ago to work for a sugar cane company.  His first wife died while he was away.

[Message #28]
Talwinder Kattaria:
and he got to know abt the death of his wife two months later

[Message #29]
Talwinder Kattaria:
but y didn't he bother to bring his kids to stay with him?

[Message #30]
Julia Bick:
b/c he had a contract with the company to work three years, he seemed to live in near poverty...then he remarries to a woman who he wrote to...Nora.  He never told her how old he was and when she married him she was really disappointed.  she then has his baby and later kills herself.

[Message #31]
Talwinder Kattaria:
she was on diet rite?

[Message #32]
Amy Lawlor:
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